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have invited them to witness the debate. The onus of expressing the view rests with you,
and don't let them share the same fate with you.‛)
Saccaka was thus pressed to repeat his own view: ‚O Honourable Gotama ..... Indeed, I
do say: ‘Corporeality is my
attÈ
, sensation is my
attÈ
, perception is my
attÈ
, volitional
activities are my
attÈ
, six-fold consciousness is my
attÈ
.’
After causing Saccaka to explain his own view, the Buddha proceeded to ask:
‚Saccaka, since you have admitted that the five-fold aggregates are
attÈ,
I will ask
you in turn about this. Answer Me as you wish. Saccaka..... what do you think of
the question I am about to ask? Would an anointed king like Pasenadi Kosala, or
the crowned King AjÈtasattu, ruler of Magadha, son of Queen Vedehi, have the
power in their respective realm to order the execution of one deserving to be put to
death, to order the confiscation of one whose property deserves to be confiscated
and to banish one deserving of banishment?‛
In answer to the above question, Saccaka replied:
‚O Honourable Gotama, a king like Pasenadi Kosala, or the crowned king like
AjÈtasattu, ruler of Magadha, son of Queen Vedehi, have the power in their
respective realm to order the execution of one deserving to be put to death, to
order the confiscation of one whose property to be confiscated and to banish one
deserving of banishment?
O Honourable Gotama.... even those Federated State Governments like Vajjis or
Mallas would have power in their respective realm to order the execution of one
deserving to be put to death, to order the confiscation of one whose property
deserves to be confiscated and to banish one deserving of banishment? What more
need we say of an anointed king such as King Pasenadi of Kosala or King
AjÈtasattu of the Kingdom of Magadha, the son of Queen Vedehi? He would have
the power, O Gotama, he deserves to have the power.‛
(The Buddha had purposely brought Saccaka to bay in order to completely crush his soul
theory (
Atta
vÈda
). Saccaka being unwise had even gone to the extent of ‚sharpening the
weapon meant for his execution‛ by mentioning the Governments of Vajjis and Mallas in
support of his statement).
‚O Saccaka, how do you like the question I am about to ask? You have said:
‘Corporeality is my
attÈ
(self).’ If so, can you cause it to obey your words, saying:
‘Let my corporeality should be thus; let my corporeality should not be thus?’ ‛
When the Buddha asked in such a point blank manner, Saccaka remained completely
silent.
(N.B. Saccaka had discovered his grave mistake. He thought to himself: ‚Samana Gotama
had brought about the destruction of my view. I was foolish enough to have created a
chance for Samana Gotama to defeat me in my own game. I have been ruined beyond
redemption. In case I say: ‘I can prevail my power upon my corporeality,’ the Licchavi
princes would stand up and rebuke me for my ugly figure (body) compared with their
own beautiful, admirable bodies which resemble those of celestial beings of TÈvatiÑsa.
In case I choose to say: ‘I cannot prevail my power upon my body,’ Samana Gotama
would stand up and rebuke me: ‘O Saccaka you already have said that you have control
over your body, and you have retracted your own profession.’ He has placed himself on
the horns of a dilemma. He therefore kept complete silence.)
For the second time the Buddha asked Saccaka to answer the same question:
‚How do you like the question I am about to ask? You have said: ‘Corporeality is
my
attÈ
(self).’ If so, can you cause it to obey your words, saying: ‘Let my
corporeality should be thus; let my corporeality should not be thus?’ ‛
Saccaka remained completely silent, and did not answer the Buddha’s question for the
second time in succession.
(If no answer was given to a reasonable question put by a Fully Self-Enlightened
Buddha for three times in succession, it constitutes a grave act of excruciation