39b: Sakka’s Questions – 1449
The Fourteenth Question on the Final Crossing Over
Further, Sakka asked this question to the Buddha:
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“Venerable sir, do all
ascetics and Brahmins attain the indestructible Nibbāna, where they can find
refuge, and where all bonds are overcome? Do all of them practise the noble
(
ariya
) path which is the right practice for the attainment of the indestructible?
Do they have the indestructible as the final goal?”
Sakka’s question is about Nibbāna as the ultimate reality, and about
whether holders of diverse views take up the practice of the noble path to
attain Nibbāna.
The Buddha answered: “Sakka, the Lord of the Devas, not all ascetics and
Brahmins attain the indestructible Nibbāna, where they can find refuge and
where all bonds are overcome. Not all of them practise the noble path which is
the right practice for the attainment of Nibbāna; nor have the indestructible as
their final goal.”
Since individual dispositions differ among the so-called ascetics and
Brahmins, their teachings, practices, views and goals differ. Therefore,
how could they attain Nibbāna, the ultimate reality, as their common goal?
The Buddha makes this clear in his reply that only those who practise the
noble path can attain Nibbāna.
Sakka then put his last question thus: “Venerable sir, what is the reason that not
all ascetics and Brahmins attain the indestructible Nibbāna, where they can find
refuge, and where all bonds are overcome? Why is it that they do not practise
the noble path which is the right practice for the attainment of the indestructible?
Why is it that not all of them have the indestructible as their final goal?”
And the Fortunate One replied: “Sakka, the Lord of the Devas, those monastics
who are free from defilements through the noble path which causes the
extinction of craving attain the indestructible Nibbāna where they find refuge
and where all bonds are overcome. They are the ones who practise the noble
path which is the right practice to attain Nibbāna, the indestructible. They have
the indestructible
Nibbāna as their final goal. Not all ascetics and Brahmins
attain the indestructible
Nibbāna where they find refuge and where all bonds
are overcome, because not all of them practise the noble path which is the right
path to attain the indestructible
Nibbāna. Not all of them have the indestructible
Nibbāna as their final goal.”